James McAvoy: "Abụ m isiokwu na-adọrọ mmasị maka psychoanalysis"

Tupu okpu agha, ọ na-ewepụ jaket akpụkpọ anụ ya. O nwere akpụkpọ ụkwụ dị arọ. Jeans nwere oghere. Elekere Casio na-eri ihe ruru $100. Ma n'elu ihe niile a bụ ihe kasị emeghe, na-eji obi ụtọ anya. Anyị na-ezute n'ógbè ebe o bi, nke dị ka obodo ochie nke England. My interlocutor squints blissfully, ekpughe ihu ya na ụzarị, ma m ike iguzogide na ghara ịbụ mkparị. Ma ọ bịara bụrụ na ezi obi bụ ụzọ kacha mma isi merie nwoke a.

Psychology: Ị kwuru n'otu oge na ị na-ewere freckles ka ọ bụ ihe na-adịghị mma nke ọdịdị gị. Na anyanwụ dị nnọọ mma maka ha!

James McAvoy: Yes, they breed in the sun, I know. But it was an answer to a glamor magazine’s stupid question: «What do you dislike about your appearance?» As if it’s so incomprehensible that I’m not Brad Pitt.

Ọ ga-amasị gị ịnweta data mpụga nke Brad Pitt?

Yes, I am nothing. I have an average height, paper-white skin, five kilos of freckles — all paths are open in front of me! No, really. I am not a hostage of my data, I can be whoever you want. That is, I want to say that I looked good with a ponytail and on hooves — in The Chronicles of Narnia. Agree, Brad Pitt in this role would take the film far towards the grotesque.

I was probably 23-24, I starred in «… And in my soul I dance.» And then I realized something about myself — it’s good that it’s quite early. It was a film about the inhabitants of a home for the disabled, unable to move independently. I played an amazing, full of life guy with a diagnosis of Duchenne muscular dystrophy, this is muscle atrophy, leading to almost complete paralysis.

Iji rụọ ọrụ a, o zughị m ka m mụta plasticity nke ndị na-arịa ọrịa a, ya bụ, enweghị ike imeghari. Mụ na ndị nwere nchoputa a kparịtara ọtụtụ ihe. Ma amụtara m na ha na-ahọrọ ka a ghara ịhụ ha. N'ihi na ha na-atụ egwu ọmịiko.

Enwere m mmetụta na mberede na ọnọdụ dị otú ahụ dị m nso n'ụzọ ụfọdụ. Enweghị m ihe ọ bụla m ga-emere ebere, nke ahụ abụghị isi okwu. Mana ọ na-amasị m ịbụ ndị nkịtị na n'echiche a enweghị atụ. Mita iri asaa. Anaghị m anwụ anwụ. Ntutu isi awọ. Nkezi ndị Europe.

Ọ bụghị ihe doro anya ka ị si bụrụ onye na-eme ihe nkiri na kpakpando nwere echiche dị otú ahụ banyere onwe gị.

Mbụ, Achọghị m otu ma ọ bụ nke ọzọ. Na nke abụọ, n'oge m na-eto eto, m bụ nnọọ nkịtị karịa ndị a na-adịkarị mkpa maka ndụ. Adị m afọ 15 ma achọrọ m ihe karịrị ịbụ nwata nkịtị si ụlọ akwụkwọ nkịtị na mpaghara Glasgow nkịtị. Abụghị m nwa akwụkwọ mara mma, nyocha nke ụmụaka anaghị ahụkwa m, ụmụ agbọghọ ahụ enweghị mmasị na m, mana a jụrụ m mgbe m kpọrọ mmadụ ka ọ gbaa egwu. Achọrọ m ịbụ ma ọ dịkarịa ala ihe pụrụ iche.

Mgbe ahụ, otu egwu egwu pụtara n'ụlọ akwụkwọ. Ma ọ tụgharịrị na ị nwere ike ịdịtụ iche, dị iche iche, na ndị dị otú ahụ gbara m gburugburu na mberede. M kwụsịrị ịtụ ụjọ ịdị iche. M hapụrụ gburugburu ebe nchekwa, ebe onye ọ bụla dị ka onye ọ bụla ọzọ. Mgbe ahụ, onye nkụzi akwụkwọ ahụ kpọrọ onye agbata obi ya, onye na-eme ihe nkiri na onye nduzi bụ David Hayman, ka ọ bịa n'ụlọ akwụkwọ anyị ikwu banyere sinima na ihe nkiri. Na Hayman gbara Lady Macbeth na mmepụta ihe nkiri nwoke niile ebe a na Glasgow.

It was a famous performance! And the guys from our school… In general, the meeting was not very positive. And I decided to thank Hayman — so that he does not think that he wasted his time on us. Although, maybe earlier, before the rock band, I would not have dared — this is an act “not like everyone else”.

Gịnịkwa meziri?

Na eziokwu ahụ bụ na Hayman, n'ụzọ dị egwu, chetara m. Ma mgbe, mgbe ọnwa atọ gasịrị, ọ na-akwado ịgbapụ The Next Room, ọ kpọrọ m ka m rụọ obere ọrụ. Ma echeghị m na m ga-abụ onye na-eme ihe nkiri. Agụrụ m akwụkwọ nke ọma ma nweta ohere na ngalaba Bekee na mahadum. Agaraghị m ebe ahụ, mana m banyere n'Ụlọ Akwụkwọ Naval Academy.

Ma akwụkwọ ịkpọ òkù sitere na Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Theatre, aghọghịkwa m onye ọrụ ụgbọ mmiri. Ya mere, ihe niile mara mma nkịtị. Abụ m onye na-eme ihe nkịtị, ihe ọ bụla pụrụ iche na-eme m naanị na ihuenyo.

E kwuwerị, i meela opekata mpe ihe abụọ pụrụ iche na-abụghị ọrụ gị. Lụrụ nwanyị ihe fọrọ nke nta ka ọ bụrụ afọ 10 tọọ gị wee gbaa alụkwaghịm ka afọ iri nke alụmdi na nwunye yiri enweghị igwe…

Ee, Ann Mary, nwunye m mbụ, tọrọ m. Mana, ị gaghị ekwere ya, ọ dịghị mkpa n'ezie. Anyị zutere na set nke enweghị ihere, anyị nwere otu ihe kpatara ya, otu ọrụ, ọdịmma nkịtị na ndụ a na-apụghị ikewa ekewa. Ị ghọtara? Enweghị m ike ikwu na na mbụ anyị nwere mmekọrịta, mgbe ahụ anyị jikọtara.

It was all at once — love, and we are together. That is, it was immediately clear that now we are together. No premarital courtship, no special romantic courtesy. We immediately got together. What didn’t matter was the age.

Mana, dịka m maara, ị tolitere n'enweghị nna… Enwere echiche, ikekwe nke ndị ọkà mmụta sayensị, na ụmụ nwoke tolitere n'ezinụlọ nwere naanị nne ma ọ bụ nna na-achọ nlekọta nne na nna n'aka ndị tọrọ ha ...

Yes, I’m generally a good object for psychoanalysis! And you know, I calmly look at these things. We are all good for some kind of analysis… I was 7 when my parents divorced. My sister and I moved to live with my grandparents. Grandpa was a butcher. And my mother either lived with us, or not — we were born when she was still very young, she had to study, work. She became a psychiatric nurse.

Anyị na nne na nna ochie bi. Ọ dịghị mgbe ha ghaara anyị ụgha. Ha asịghị, dịka ọmụmaatụ: ị ​​nwere ike ịghọ onye ọ bụla ịchọrọ. Nke a abụghị eziokwu, Achọghị m ịkụnye nwa m olileanya ụgha. Ma ha kwuru: ị ga-agbalị ịghọ ihe ị chọrọ, ma ọ bụ na ọ dịghị ihe ọzọ na-aghọ onye. Ha bụ ndị eziokwu. Enwetara m nzụlite bara uru, nke na-abụghị nke echiche efu.

Until the age of 16, he lived according to strict rules approved by his grandmother. But at 16, I suddenly noticed that I could do whatever I wanted, and my grandmother, seeing me to a party, reminded me that I had to go for a beer. My grandparents waited for the moment when they could trust me, when I was able to make my own decisions and be responsible for them … At 16, it was an amazing adventure — my own decisions. And as a result, I’m actually quite practical.

Amaara m onye m bụ, ebe m si… Mgbe m nwetara onyinye BAFTA mbụ m, enwere ajụjụ ọnụ mụ na nna m na tabloid nke m na-amaghị n'ezie. O kwuru na obi ga-adị ya ụtọ ịhụ m.

It surprised me: why would he? I definitely don’t need to — I have no questions about the past, there is nothing unclear in it, I do not need to look for any answers. I know what made me who I am and I look at things from a practical point of view. Life has developed in such a way that we practically do not know each other. Well, there is nothing to stir up the old.

Ma ndụ tụgharịrị nke ọma, ị na-ahụ. Gịnị ma ọ bụrụ na ọ naghị arụ ọrụ?

My best, probably best friend, Mark, and I recalled what we were like at 15. Then we had a feeling: no matter what happens to us, we will be fine. Even then he said: well, even if in 15 years we will be washing cars on the side of the road in Drumtochti, we will still be fine. And now we have decided that we will subscribe to this now. I have this optimistic feeling — that the question is not what place I occupy under the sun, but how I feel about myself.

Therefore, I am amused by colleagues who insist on signs of their status — on these huge dressing room trailers, on personal hairdressers and the size of the letters of the names on the posters. There are too many canons in the world to comply with the status … For me, there are definitely a lot.

In general, this desire for a solo under the sun is incomprehensible to me. I am a team member by nature. Maybe that’s why I ended up in a high school rock band — what’s the point of playing great if the rest of the team is out of tune? It is important that the overall sound is harmonious.

Enwere m mmasị na ya na ụlọ akwụkwọ mmuta ihe nkiri, na ọrụ a, n'ihi na ihe nkiri, sinima bụ egwuregwu otu egwuregwu, ọ dabere na onye na-ese ihe na-ese ihe, na onye na-ese ihe na-erughị onye na-eme ihe nkiri, ọ bụ ezie na ọ nọ n'okpuru ihe ngosi, na ha nọ n'azụ ihe nkiri. Na ihe a niile na-apụta ìhè ma ọ bụrụ na ị na-ele anya site na echiche bara uru.

Lee, ọ bụghị mgbe niile ka ịdị mma adịghị ekwe omume. Enwekwara mmetụta. Dịka ọmụmaatụ, ị gbara alụkwaghịm, n'agbanyeghị na nwa gị nwoke Brendan dị afọ 6…

Ma ịghara ịtụ egwu mmetụta gị na ịghọta ha bụ ihe kacha baa uru ná ndụ! Iji ghọta na ihe dị n'ofe, na ọdịnaya agaghịkwa adaba n'ụdị ... Ka anyị na-ekwu na mmekọrịta anyị na Ann-Mary ghọọ a siri ike enyi, anyị na-comrades-na-ogwe aka na enyi. Ma ọ bụghị alụmdi na nwunye, ọ bụ ya? Onye ọ bụla n'ime anyị chọrọ inwe mmetụta ndị ọzọ na-agaghị ekwe omume na njikọ anyị.

By the way, that’s why after the divorce we continued to live together for another year — not only so as not to destroy Brendan’s way of life, but because each of us had no serious personal plans. We are still close friends and always will be.

Do not make a naked ratio out of me — sometimes I succumb to the dictates of feelings. For example, I initially refused to star in The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby, although I fell in love with both the script and the role. But there the motive and the source of the plot is the death of the hero’s little son. And shortly before that, Brendan was born. I absolutely did not want to try on such a loss. Could not. And the role was wonderful, and the film could come out amazingly poignant, but I still couldn’t step over this fact in the script.

Mana ị ka na-egwuri egwu na ihe nkiri a?

A year has passed, feelings subsided. I no longer panicked that something would happen to Brendan. I’m used to it being okay when I have Brendan. By the way, yes — this is the exceptional thing that happened to me outside the cinema and the stage — Brendan.

Aga m agwa gị karịa… Mgbe ụfọdụ ndị na-eme ihe ike, ndị na-alụ ọgụ maka nnwere onwe nke Scotland, gbalịa itinye m na mkpọsa ha. Ị̀ ma ihe nzube ha bụ? Iji mee ka anyị ndị Scotland baa ọgaranya mgbe nnwere onwe. Kedu ihe mkpali iji baa ọgaranya?

A century ago, the Irish fought for independence and were ready to die for it. Is anyone ready to shed blood for this «become richer»? This I mean that practicality is not always a worthy motivator. In my opinion, only feelings can be a real incentive to action. Everything else, as they say, is decay.